proverb · Words worth keeping
Swine, women, and bees are not to be turned.
Swine, women, and bees are not to be turned.
Historical period not yet established
Editorial context: This demeaning animal comparison casts women’s refusal as obstinacy. It does not justify coercion or dismiss someone’s reasons.
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Meaning in plain English
The saying groups women with swine and bees as supposedly difficult to redirect or control. It expresses a demeaning stereotype of obstinacy, rather than a trustworthy description of women.
What the words are saying
The three subjects are placed in a list and declared not to be turned. For the woman in the line, the image makes refusal to follow another’s direction look like a shared trait with animals. The wording can be read as a complaint about resistance to control, but that complaint does not show that the proposed direction was fair or wanted. An interpretation should expose the demeaning comparison rather than invite attempts to overcome it. People can decline a request for relevant reasons, and their consent matters. Examine the actual disagreement without treating gender as proof of irrational stubbornness.
Everyday example
An organiser asks why a participant opposes a proposed schedule and considers her explanation, instead of quoting the animal comparison to dismiss her refusal.
When to use it
Use it as an example of a stereotype that casts women’s resistance as something to control.
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What it does not mean
Refusal is not evidence of irrationality, and the animal comparison does not justify coercion.
Agent-assisted editorial interpretation. This explains the words; it does not by itself verify their author or earliest origin.
Attribution & collection notes
- Author or tradition
- Traditional
Attribution: traditional - Country attributed
- Not established
A country attribution does not establish the earliest origin. - Historical period
- Historical period not yet established
No sufficiently supported historical placement has been established. Import and download dates are not treated as composition dates. - Recorded source
- A Dictionary of English Proverbs and Proverbial Phrases
Entry 1679 · Turned
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